See we are the truth, would you like to read more of what god's earthly organization has to say ?
I've got more literature for you to read if your interested in the real Truth !
some old timer jws (and probably some newer ones as well) say that they (the watchotwer) predicted world war i which broke out in 1914.. they apparently truly believe that statement.. how would you answer?.
See we are the truth, would you like to read more of what god's earthly organization has to say ?
I've got more literature for you to read if your interested in the real Truth !
to the student of ignorance and fear mongering : regarding your proclamation of the end times.. the point is the select signs of the times of the gt as written in the bible could be placed well in any moment of human history.
for last 2000 years and even be placed with greater accuracy in the middle ages, so when someone reads information from apocalyptic religious.
cults like the jws who are trying to superimpose fear into people so they will react in the way they want them to react, hence it pays to analise.
You will know these false prophets/profits by their works and proclamations.
God never intended the gospel to be commercialized, not in biblical times either $$$
Defining The False Prophet And Their Fate:
Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Deu 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?
Deu 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.Jer 23:14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
The Motivation of the False Prophet Is Money:
Micah 3:9 [NIV] Hear this, you leaders of the house of Jacob, you rulers of the house of Israel, who despise justice and distort all that is right;
Micah 3:10 [NIV] who build Zion with bloodshed, and Jerusalem with wickedness.
Micah 3:11 [NIV] Her leaders judge for a bribe, her priests teach for a price, and her prophets tell fortunes for money. Yet they lean upon the LORD and say, "Is not the LORD among us? No disaster will come upon us."
Micah 3:12 [NIV] Therefore because of you, Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become a heap of rubble, the temple hill a mound overgrown with thickets.Jer 6:13 For from the least of them even unto the greatest of them every one is given to covetousness; and from the prophet even unto the priest every one dealeth falsely.
Jer 6:14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.
Jer 6:15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD.Ezek 22:25 There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.
Ezek 22:26 Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
Ezek 22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, and to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.
Ezek 22:28 And her prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar, seeing vanity, and divining lies unto them, saying, Thus saith the Lord GOD, when the LORD hath not spoken.
to the student of ignorance and fear mongering : regarding your proclamation of the end times.. the point is the select signs of the times of the gt as written in the bible could be placed well in any moment of human history.
for last 2000 years and even be placed with greater accuracy in the middle ages, so when someone reads information from apocalyptic religious.
cults like the jws who are trying to superimpose fear into people so they will react in the way they want them to react, hence it pays to analise.
To the student of ignorance and fear mongering : regarding your proclamation of the end times.
The point is the select signs of the times of the GT as written in the bible could be placed well in any moment of human history
for last 2000 years and even be placed with greater accuracy in the middle ages, so when someone reads information from apocalyptic religious
cults like the JWS who are trying to superimpose fear into people so they will react in the way they want them to react, hence it pays to analise
that given information to see if it is correct or not. The clue or hint to the truthful answer to all of this is the WTS. is a Publishing House.
Its deceivingly deliberate but that is the truth whether you like it or not.
The WTS has been around as long as they have because they know there are antiquated idiots that will believe them and they've got the numbers
to prove it. Thats the game that the WTS plays and thats of course making people believe in them and once they get someone they can start to
exploit them to buy and sell more of their literature.
Just who are you trying to kid ?
GO back into your hole, your BULLSHITTING isn't going to go anywhere here.
i have been lurking for a while, just joined.
nice to see there are so many others out there who feel/felt how i feel.... long story short - i was born into it, started having doubts about age 6, but what can you do when you have over controlling parents whose only goal is to make you a pioneer and ship you off to bethel so you can be like your goody-two-shoe brothers.
suffered through my school years being bullied with no friends - parents made sure that i was very different from other kids inc how i dressed and even what i ate to the point where i was apparently known as the ugly hippie.
Welcome to the forum and congratulations on stepping out of organized corruption.
Humanity welcomes you with open arms.
some old timer jws (and probably some newer ones as well) say that they (the watchotwer) predicted world war i which broke out in 1914.. they apparently truly believe that statement.. how would you answer?.
The point is the select signs of the times of the GT as written in the bible could be placed well in any moment of human history
for last 2000 years and even be placed with greater accuracy in the middle ages, so when someone reads information from apocalyptic religious
cults like the JWS who are trying to superimpose fear into people so they will react in the way they want them to react, hence it pays to analise
that given information to see if it is correct or not. The clue or hint to the truthful answer to all of this is the WTS. is a Publishing House.
Its deceivingly deliberate but that is the truth whether you like it or not.
The WTS has been around as long as they have because they know there are antiquated idiots that will believe them and they've got the numbers
to prove it. Thats the game that the WTS plays and thats of course making people believe in them and once they get someone they can start to
exploit them to buy and sell more of their literature.
some old timer jws (and probably some newer ones as well) say that they (the watchotwer) predicted world war i which broke out in 1914.. they apparently truly believe that statement.. how would you answer?.
This comes out of the teaching of the signs of the end times ( GT ) , one of them being wars and rumors of wars.
Since most JWS are not well educated in human history they take world war 1 as an obvious sign of bible prophecy.
Of course anyone with any kind resemblance of an education in history would say that there were actual more wars about earth
previously of 1914. The WTS and its followers try to promote themselves as true preachers of the bible so selecting any occurrence to support this
imposing image gets selectively utilized and exploited.
my brother-in-law has been staying with me all week and his strange views of life have been driving me crazy.
just yesterday he informed me that c.t.
russell predicted global warming.
Nevertheless one could certainly postulate that Russell was indeed a very good salesman.
my brother-in-law has been staying with me all week and his strange views of life have been driving me crazy.
just yesterday he informed me that c.t.
russell predicted global warming.
The self imposed divine light of CTR.
CLOSE TO INFALLIBLE
The Finished Mystery (1917) was a 608-page book published by the Russellites?the cult that developed into Jehovah?s Witnesses. About 850,000 copies were printed.
The book was allegedly: "of the Lord?prepared under his guidance." (p. 126) It gave a verse by verse interpretation of Revelation and Ezekiel. An ad for the book in The Watch Tower called it: "the true interpretation." (1917, p.334) The Finished Mystery was presented as the posthumous work of Charles Taze Russell?the founder of the cult:
We?re informed:
Of the Bible we're told: "the Bible is an infallible teacher of the Divine purposes" (p. 66).
The Finished Mystery applies the word "truth", or synonyms thereof such as "Divine light", to Russell?s teachings over 100 times. It also has many insults of Christian ministers such as "yelpings of little men?of the D.D.s of Christendom." (p. 383) D.D.s stands for Dumb Dogs.
People who rejected Russellism the book calls "enemies of truth" (p. 362) and "clerical foes of truth" (p. 383). It says, "the Bible has been perverted" (p. 384) and "the clergy tried to stem the tide of truth" (p. 390).
With the Bible infallible, Russell without theological peer or parallel, and with opposers worthy of insult we?d expect The Finished Mystery itself to be close to infallible. Let?s investigate this:
THE METHOD
I selected 35 pages from The Finished Mystery using the Random Number key of a Scientific Calculator and counted the number of statements that disagree with present-day JW interpretations. The results were:
PAGE | NUMBER STATEMENTS NOW REJECTED | PAGE | NUMBER STATEMENTS NOW REJECTED |
220 | 1 | 327 | 2 |
66 | 1 | 524 | 0 |
519 | 3 | 61 | 3 |
152 | 1 | 412 | 2 |
502 | 0 | 479 | 1 |
564 | 5 | 29 | 1 |
388 | 0 | 501 | 2? |
262 | 2 | 535 | 0 |
46 | 5 | 318 | 0 |
75 | 0 | 302 | 0 |
18 | 3 | 424 | 3? |
436 | 0 | 52 | 0 |
30 | 2 | 198 | 3 |
157 | 7 | 563 | 5 |
410 | 0 | 505 | 2 |
440 | 0 | 106 | 11 |
134 | 14 | ||
83 | 0 | TOTAL 79 | |
425 | 0 | AVERAGE 2.26 |
Two further pages, 258 and 398, are reproduced with this article to illustrate the style of writing in The Finished Mystery.With an average of 2.26 discarded interpretations per page the best single estimate for the whole book is 2.26 x 608pages = 1,372.
This estimates the number of points that an informed JW would recognize as false. Christians and non-Christians would find thousands more falsehoods.
Consider, for example: "the true church?have since 1878 been withdrawing from ecclesiasticism and close to God." (p. 407) A present-day JW would probably agree with this sentence. A more-thoughtful person would disagree because he would doubt that hundreds of mistakes in theology and prophecy could be part of "the true church?close to God." And if we examine how 1878 was obtained and what the date signified that too would be seen as error. This one sentence, therefore, could be regarded as having one, two, three or zero errors depending on whose viewpoint we take. In this case I would count "one" because I?m counting changed or discarded interpretations and the significance of 1878 is now discarded by JWs.
Furthermore The Finished Mystery has several hundred negative descriptions of Christian denominations calling them or their leaders, for example, "enemies of truth", while calling its own theology "light", "truth", etc. Every such statement would be viewed as erroneous by other denominations but my count does not include them since, again, I?m estimating the number of changed/discarded interpretations and not the number of errors.
i have been raised as a jw and now i recently found out how full of crap it all is.
the lies are just unbelievable at this point.
on a side note my parents and my brother all want to leave too my dad is still in as an elder.
I want to help her see that this is not the truth.
The only truth that you should be made aware of is the WTS. has for almost a century has tried desperately
to position themselves is the one and only true godly spirited directed organization on earth, this was intensionally done so for the
reason that they were and are a publishing house and they wanted to establish validity to their printed publications.
Spin it which ever way you want to but that is the cold hard fact of the matter.
Not only was it decidedly devised in this matter it also a self proclamation of empowerment that was readily available to them
given the freedom of religion policy offer by the American government. They took up that opportunity and started a corporation based on religious
ideology complete with share holders and lawyers holding their hands.
Call it the commercialization of god American style.
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the tires have been rotated twice.
I'm guessing its a Mustang GT right ?